it's sobering that richard heart asserts bitcoin is at the TOP of its S curve

@Alex_Linder
Pardon my ignorance, but I assume this is a good thing for adoption of Bitcoin. Or no?

@bigbrother1066 no, the opposite. s curve refers to adoption. the basic question is whether we're early on that curve or late. he's saying late. most say we're early. he says no that's wrong, bitcoin is 13 years old, outdate technology. hex and others are better. that's his argument. look up S curve.

@Alex_Linder
I'm just curious. What do you personally think?

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@bigbrother1066 what i personally think is what i've said - that he has induced in me serious wonder regarding technical ways of overcoming the 21m, which is the same as killing bitcoin. that's why i want him directly discussing the matter with top bitcoin minds. how exactly can the 21m be altered? this is where the jew pressure will come into play, it doesnt matter that none of the folks will mention jews, this is a purely technical question which i dont have answer to yet. we know the politics

@Alex_Linder
Yeah. Great points. The two inflation bugs got me worried too.

@Alex_Linder @bigbrother1066 some dude on the fed answered this. Basically that would be a hard fork and the "true btc" would be the valuable one and the new one with inflation something else

@Someguy @bigbrother1066 anyone can fork bitcoin at any point, that doesnt change anything. ver tried it. he failed. he's another that heart has done a go-round with, i had forgotten that. i like ver but heart is more presuasive.

if there is a way to leverage pressure on miners or whatever council makes decisions on bitcoin development, that is where it will get jewed. add to that what heart is saying, it's already huge-minority owned by a bunch of rich VC types, not by ordinary people.

@Alex_Linder @bigbrother1066 right and the point was even if it gets jewed in that way there's still a remnant left over for the people who understand the value of a cap. A hard fork means two tokens unless 100 percent come on board

@Alex_Linder @bigbrother1066 it would be like btc 2 and btc retro and one could say no thanks I'll go with retro even if it's only 10 percent of what it was.

@Someguy @bigbrother1066 lots of people have done that and it hasnt worked. in a nutshell, bitcoin's people dont want it to develop. and that is a fair statement of their position. those who want to develop something created ethereum, cardano, hex and others. like heart says, they would have built on bitcoin if they could. but the wizards opted for security and decentralization at the cost of all other needs and values. yet then they whine that anyone else comes in to supply those by new coins!

@Alex_Linder @bigbrother1066 for me in absence of a Hitlercoin btc has limited bells and whistles and good liquidity and can be sold off if a problem arises. Limited development also means limited (((activism))).

@Alex_Linder @Someguy
We really would benefit from hearing Keiser and/or Saylor debate Heart. I don't know if that is likely to happen.

@bigbrother1066 this is the rare area where the entire question turns on the HOW, which is a technical matter, and not my strong area. so i need to watch the top men from either side go at it, then i can tell. i know the politics better than any of these people but i need the technical understanding of how the 21m could be changed. what it would take as a technical matter. before i was 90% satisfied with the "oh its impossible" from the keisers. now i have doubt, thanks to heart.

@Alex_Linder
And he was one of at least two youtubers that said Bitcoin would go down when everybody else was saying it would go up.

@bigbrother1066 he's one of three i'm aware of. but with him, i only heard it after the fact. i heard it straight from now-everywhere gareth soloway BEFORE the fact and from crypto kirby (who doesnt do appearances) BEFORE the fact. heart did call it before the fact, i just want aware of it or heart at all, really.

@bigbrother1066 when everyone is thinking same way, no one is thinking. as they say. he's the only one who is taking on saylor and just plain laughing at him for buying at the top -- and on leverage. whereas he called the top at 65k. and claims he also called earlier top at 20k back in maybe 2018 or 2017.

@Alex_Linder
So if Heart is right, and PulseX is indeed better and more secure (Jew-proof) than Bitcoin, then PulseX could conceivably end up in the thousands in a few years.

@bigbrother1066 he'd say all his coins, certainly including hex, which is only 2 years old, are better than bitcoin in numerous ways, certainly including being more secure.. he talks about how many x things go up, doesnt really give price predictions. he'll also tell you his stuff will go way down too, but still be up a bunch. he would never make a formal prediction about any specific price as that would be some kind of forward looking statement or something you're not supposed to do.

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