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what i really object as a sort of over-objection is these jerks doing what the 'environmentalists' do - turning a technical matter into a morality play. this introduces drama that shouldnt be there, it clouds and confuses discussion.

we need money with a hard cap that cant be altered. how do we achieve that? has bitcoin in fact accomplished this? then why are plausible men arguing it has not? and why wont bitcoin champions address their arguments?

that's how i see it.

@Alex_Linder the retards in the eco-moobment would happily destroy an alternative currency because muh climate change.
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